Toyota Torque Pids

Toyota torque specifications. TORQUE SPECIFICATIONS. FT-LBS (N-m) AXLE SPINDLE NUT. CAMRY (1994-92) 217 (294) CELICA (1992) & SUPRA. The Current Gear PID is useful and I am not sure why it isn't included in the wide array of default PID's in Torque. And, if you have the knowledge of the different PID settings, you might be able to come up with some additional and very usefull Custom PID's. I hope you at least find the 'CURRENT GEAR' PID useful. Anyway I found another android application that shows current gear and converter lock-up. It's 'ELM Scan Toyota'- there is free and pay version. Even free version shows current gear (there is a 'Dashboard section'). Application require an OBD2 Bluetooth device - so before buying, please check with free application if it works.

  1. Toyota Torque Stick
  2. Toyota Torque Specs 2010 Chart
  3. Toyota Torque Specs Chart
  4. Toyota Torque Spec

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  • I did not expect PIDs starting with 0x00. To allow that in RaceChrono, it will need some more programming from me...
    0x00 is really weird range. Have you tested these on Torque app or similar? Just checking that I won't do this work based on wrong information.
  • There is no officially 0x00 ServiceID known to me.
    PID 0x00 normally gives you a List of the next 32 PID´s, which were supported. Like 1101... which means, PID 1,2 & 4 are supported.
    Two bytes PID´s are also never seen by me on any ride/drive.
    But there are things like reading failures, where you have a leading zero for selecting a specific error register. Or setting testmodes like (de-)activating a fan with 00 and 01.
    Some Background:
    0x just is a prefix to make sure that this were hex values!
    00 D0 might only have leading zeros, which were placeholders for int / int16 (two bytes).
    So probably this is only a developing paradigm. Where do you got the information from, to use 0x00D0?
    0xD0 = 208
    0x00D0 = 208
    And for the nerdy ones: 208 = 11010000
    Just give it a try with D0?
  • edited June 2019
    @TriB The first byte of the PID is actually Service ID in RaceChrono and Torque. So 0x00D0 would be Service ID 0x00 and PID 0xD0, requested as '00 D0' in ELM 327. It cannot be single byte. What I think is that Toyota really uses Service ID 0x00 (with PIDS 0xD0 and 0xD1), and I'm waiting for @tanner 's confirmation for that.
    Currently RaceChrono does not allow 0x00 service ID at all, due to way the PID field is stored. I will change that if it's confirmed that this service ID is needed.
  • @aol I think it isn´t. I read several Toyota OBD-threads now and none of them refers to 0x00 as SID. Every request, even tirepressure and stuff is 0x21, like it´s described by the OBD standard.
    The only 0x00 I saw was as PID or to filter DTC (diagnostic trouble codes).
    It might be 0x0021 & 0x00D0 just as a different notation.
    Until we don´t know where tanner got his infos from, we can only guess.
  • This is where I read about it and also confirmed the brake and steering angle with somebody. I am waiting to hear back from this person regarding if the service ID is applicable or not.
    https://forum.autosportlabs.com/viewtopic.php?t=5319
  • Never mind, won't work with RaceChrono or any other app that reads PIDs. These aren't PIDs but rather a message identifier for the canbus message.
  • @tanner, thank you for the clarification. Makes sense now. RaceChrono has ability to read CAN-Bus as well, but at the moment it needs DIY electronics as there's no commercial provider for something like this: https://github.com/aollin/racechrono-ble-diy-device
  • edited July 2020
    I was able to read the brake pedal and clutch pedal sensors via OBD!
    Unfortunately, these only provide pressed (255) / released (0) values, i.e. no intermediate values. Better than nothing?
    To add a custom PID go to Settings, click on your FRS/BRZ/86 in the list of 'Vehicle profiles'.
    At the bottom, click 'Add channel'.
    In the 'Channel editor', choose the right name for the channel, then click 'Show more...'.
    Type 0x7E0 as 'OBD-II header', tap the checkmark on the right.
    PID: 0x221233 for brake pressed/released sensor
    PID: 0x22122F for clutch pressed/released sensor
    Don't forget to tap the checkmark on the right.
    Equation: 'B / 2.55', then tap checkmark on the right.
    Don't forget to 'Save'!
    While at it, I also noticed that the 'Relative accelerator position' was reporting 40...41% for me when flooring the pedal, causing RaceChrono to show 97% of throttle in my onboards. Knowing that 100/255 = ~0.39, I figured that can't be a coincidence. I looked at the 'live data' and realized that 'floor it' gives me something like 0x67 ... 0x6D, which corresponds to 103...109. Perhaps the values above 100 are just clamped to 100 in the ECU, and are there due to imprecision in the pedal calibration?
    Anyhow, I ended up entering a 'custom' PID for the accelerator pedal:
    OBD-II header: blank (default)
    PID: 0x015A
    Equation: min(A, 100)
  • I FOUND IT!

    Channel: Brake Position (%)

    OBD-II header: 0x7B0

    PID: 0x2141

    Equation: min(100, 1.1 * max(A-10, 0))


    Explanation: the min/max trick makes sure the output is in the [0%, 100%] range. The 1.1x is a multiplier that roughly matches the scale factor I previously chose for my CAN bus reader so that 100% is reported when I'm braking really hard. The -10 offset is to compensate for the default value of 10 (I've no idea why the reported value never goes below 10).

    Enjoy!

    Having said that, OBD-II provides a much lower refresh rate than CAN, so I still recommend investing a little time into making a DIY CAN reader as documented on my GitHub:

  • Another PID I found on the ft86club forum (thanks map@!) is 'fuel remaining'.
    Even though there's a standard PID for that, it's known that the standard PID it fluctuates a lot and isn't very useful.
    Here's a comparison between the custom PID I found (green) and the standard one (orange) during my recent track day:
    https://imgur.com/mxo9h2p
    Channel: Fuel level (L)
    OBD-II header: 0x7C0
    PID: 0x2129
    Equation: A/2
  • minor correction: a better 'fuel remaining (liters)' equation would be 'A * 0.5'

P-codes, or OBD-II PIDs On Board Diagnostics “Parameter IDs”, are codes used to request data from a vehicle, used as a diagnostic tool. These codes are part of SAE standard J/1979, required to be implemented in all cars sold in North America since 1996. I am trying to get transmission temperature for my 2018 toyota Sienna. I have been attempting to use PID 2182 and 21D9, but I get “no data” errors. In fact, I have tried to query a number of 21xx PIDs and so far none have come back with data.

Pids

PIDS are the serial data that can be accessed from the vehicle computer using a scan tool. PIDS include:

  • Status of the OBD II System Component Monitors
    (Ready or Complete, or Not Ready or Incomplete)
  • Live Sensor Data
    (Oxygen sensor rich/lean indication, coolant temperature, MAP value, TPS value, vehicle speed, mass air flow, ambient temperature, engine rpm, etc.)
  • Status of Switches or Devices
    (cruise control on/off. brake pedal switch on/off. TCC engaged/disengaged, etc.)
  • Long and Short Term Fuel Trim, O2 sensor cross counts, injector duration.

DIAGNOSTIC VALUE

PIDS provide valuable diagnostic information when checking the operation or status of various sensors, circuits and switches in the vehicle's engine management system.

For example, if the MIL lamp is on and you find an oxygen sensor code, you can call up the oxygen sensor PIDS on your scan tool display to see what the oxygen sensor is telling the PCM.

You can also compare PIDS to see how one component may be affecting another.

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For example, when you suddenly open the throttle on an idling engine, rpm should increase, the TPS reading should change and the MAP sensor value should drop.

PIDS can also be compared using a 'graphing multimeter' or on a scope that converts the voltage values to waveforms.

Comparing the waveforms of several related sensors can help you find faults that might otherwise be impossible to detect.

SCAN TOOL PID CAPABILITY

Different scan tools have different capabilities to display PIDS.

The OEM scan tools used by new car dealers are capable of displaying every possible PID value that is built into the engine management system.

Most general purpose aftermarket scan tools do not contain the software that allows them to match the OEM scan tools in every respect -- but for most applications they can display all the important PIDS.

The trouble is you never know what PIDS are missing until you go looking for one and find it isn't there. Bummer.

That's why many professional technicians own multiple scan tools: an aftermarket general purpose scan tool, and one or more OEM scan tools for the makes they most frequently work on.

Scan tools like TOAD support various PIDS including live data values, the status of switches and other devices, the readiness status of various OBD II monitors, and other test results.

Live data provides real-time measurements of system inputs.

Statuses tell you if a switch, relay or other device is ON/OFF or has been commanded ON or OFF.

Readiness monitors tell you if the monitors have completed or not.

Test results are measured by the PCM and compared against preprogrammed pass/fail values in teh PCM's memory.

LIVE DATA:

  • Air Flow Rate From MAF -- The airflow rate as measured by the mass air flow sensor.
  • Absolute Throttle Position -- The absolute throttle position (not the relative or learned) throttle position. Usually above 0% at idle and less than 100% at full throttle.
  • Calculated Load Value -- Indicates a percentage of peak available torque. Reaches 100% at wide open throttle at any altitude or RPM for both naturally aspirated and boosted engines.
  • Engine Coolant Temperature -- Engine coolant temperature as read by the engine coolant temperature sensor. This value should be compared to the actual coolant temperature to see if they match.
    You can use an infrared thermometer or other thermometer to measure the temperature of the coolant at the thermostat outlet. If the actual temperature and displayed temperature do not match, it would tell you the coolant sensor is not reading correctly.
  • Engine RPM -- The current engine speed in revolutions per minute (RPM).
  • Fuel Rail Pressure -- Pressure in the fuel rail when the reading is referenced to atmosphere (gauge pressure).
  • Ignition Timing Advance -- Degrees of ignition timing (spark) advance for #1 cylinder (not including mechanical advance). Intake Manifold
  • Pressure -- Pressure in the intake manifold derived from a Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor.
  • Long Term Fuel Trim (LTFT) -- The correction factor (percentage) being used by the fuel control system in both open and closed loop modes of operation. LTFT should typically be within plus or minus five. Positive LTFT numbers indicate the PCM is adding more fuel to compensate for a lean fuel condition.
    Negative LTFT numbers mean the PCM is delivering less fuel to compensate for a rich fuel condition. If the LTFT is higher than 10 either way, it may indicate a problem.
  • Short Term Fuel Trim (STFT) -- The correction factor being used in closed loop by the PCM to maintain a balanced fuel mixture. If the fuel system is open loop, 0% correction should be reported. As with LTFT, the number should usually be plus or minus five. If greater than 10, it indicates a fuel mixture problem.
  • O2 Sensor Output Voltage -- The actual voltage being generated by the oxygen sensor (should be 0.1 to 1.0 volts for a conventional zirconia O2 sensor).
    For wide-band O2 sensors and linear O2 sensors, the value may be higher, or it may be converted to a zero to one volt scale.
    There may be multiple O2 sensor PIDS depending on homw many sensors the engien has (Bank1 sensor 1, Bank2 Sensor 1, etc.).
  • Time Since Engine Start -- Shows the time the engine has been running since it was last started. Vehicle Speed -- Displays vehicle road speed as read by the vehicle speed sensor (VSS).
  • Absolute Load Value -- This is the normalized value of air mass per intake stroke displayed as a percent.
  • Absolute Throttle Position -- The absolute throttle position (not the relative or learned) throttle position. Usually above 0% at idle and less than 100% at full throttle.
  • Accelerator Pedal Position -- The absolute pedal position (not the relative or learned) pedal position. Usually above 0% at idle and less than 100% at full throttle.
  • Ambient Air Temperature -- The ambient air temperature as ready by the air temperature sensor. This value can be compared to the temperature reading by another thermometer to see if the values match. If they do not, the air temperature sensor is not reading accurately.
    NOTE: the temperature reading will depend on the location of the sensor. If the sensor is located under the hood, it may read higher than the outside temperatrue when the vehicle is not moving becuase of engine heat.
  • Barometric Pressure -- Barometric pressure as determined by a barometric pressure (BARO) sensor. Note some weather services report barometric pressure adjusted to sea level. In these cases, the reported value may not match the displayed value.
  • Catalyst Temp -- The temperature inside the catalytic converter.
  • Commanded EGR -- Tells you what the PCM is commanding the EGR valve to do.
    The percentage vlue should be 0% when EGR is commanded off (at idle), 100% when EGR is commanded on (typically when cruising under light load), and between 0% and 100% is the EGR solenoid is duty cycled on and off by the PCM (depending on vehicle speed, engine load and temperature).
  • Commanded Equivalence Ratio -- Fuel systems that use conventional oxygen sensor displays the commanded open loop equivalence ratio while the system is in open loop. Should report 100% when in closed loop fuel.
    To obtain the actual air/fuel ratio being commanded, multiply the stoichiometric A/F ratio by the equivalence ratio. For example, gasoline, stoichiometric is 14.64:1 ratio.
    If the fuel control system was command an equivalence ratio of 0.95, the commanded A/F ratio to the engine would be 14.64 * 0.95 = 13.9 A/F.
  • Commanded Evaporative Purge -- This value should read 0% when no purge is commanded and 100% at the maximum commanded purge position/flow.
  • Commanded Throttle Actuator -- This value should be 0% when the throttle is commanded closed and 100% when the throttle is commanded open.
  • Control Module Voltage -- Power input to the control module. Normally, this should show battery voltage minus any voltage drop between the battery and the control module (which should be less than a few tenths of a volt).
    Distance Since DTCs Cleared -- How many miles the vehicle has been driven since any DTCs were cleared with a scan tool. Distance
  • Traveled While MIL On -- Tells you how many miles the vehicle has been driven with the MIL light on. Also tells you
    how long the driver has been ignoring the light!
  • EGR Error -- Calculated error as percent of actual commanded EGR. Negative percent is less than commanded and positive is more than commanded. The greater the value, the more likely the EGR valve is sticking.
  • EVAP Purge -- This value is displayed as a percentage and is normalized for all types of EVAP systems. When EVAP purge is commanded off, the value should be o%, and 100% when it is commanded on.
    This is an important value o check if the engine has lower than normal LTFT and STFT fuel trim numbers (indicating a rich fuel condition). The purge valve may be leaking vapor into the intake manifold.
    To eliminate the purge valve as a possible source of fuel vapor, pinch off the purge vapor hose, run the engine and recheck the STFT number. If it is back to normal, the purse valve is leaking.
  • EVAP System Vapor Pressure -- Evaporative system vapor pressure normally obtained from a sensor located in the fuel tank.
  • Fuel Level Input -- Indicates the nominal fuel tank liquid fill capacity as a percent of maximum.
  • Fuel Rail Pressure -- Indicates the fuel rail pressure at the engine referenced to atmosphere (gauge pressure).
  • Fuel Rail Pressure Rel Manifold -- The fuel rail pressure referenced to the manifold vacuum (relative pressure).
  • Intake Air Temperature -- The temperature of the air in the intake manifold as read by the intake manifold air temperature sensor. This should be the same as ambient temperature in a cold engine that has not been started, and should be higher than ambient tempertarue if teh engine is warm and has been running.
  • Minutes Run with MIL On -- Accumulated minutes of engine run time while the MIL light is on.
  • O2 Sensor Wide Range mA -- Milliamp current for linear or wide-ratio oxygen sensors.
  • O2 Sensor Wide Range V -- Voltage for linear or wide-ratio oxygen sensors.
  • Relative Throttle Position -- Relative or learned throttle position.
  • Time Since DTCs Cleared -- Accumulated time since DTCs where cleared with a scan tool.
  • Warm-ups Since DTCs Cleared -- Number of warm-up cycles since all DTCs were cleared with a scan tool. A warm-up is defined as the coolant temperature rising by at least 22°C (40°F) and the engine temperature reaches at a minimum 70°C (160°F), or 60°C (140°F) for diesel engines.

TROUBLE CODES AND FREEZE FRAME DATA

Toyota Torque Pids

Code readers and scan tools will also display Stored Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs), usually in numeric order.

Toyota Torque Stick

Many scan tools can also display Pending Trouble Codes.

These are codes that indicate a fault has been detected, but that the fault has not yet repeated.

Toyota Torque Specs 2010 Chart

If the fault repeats under similar driving conditions, it will usually cause the Pending Code to become a Stored Code and turn on the MIL light.

Many scan tools can also display Freeze Frame data.

These are PIDS that are captured when a fault occurs so you can refer to them later when diagnosing the problem.

Freeze frame data typically includes related sensor values at the time the fault occurred.

STATUS AND READINESS MONITORS

Toyota Torque Specs Chart

OBD II requires the following status and readiness monitors:

Toyota Torque Spec

  • Fuel System 1 Status
  • Fuel System 2 Status
  • Secondary Air Status
  • Auxiliary Input Status
  • Misfire Monitor Status
  • Fuel System Status
  • Comprehensive Component Monitoring Status
  • Catalyst Monitoring Status
  • Heated Catalyst Monitoring Status
  • Evaporative System Monitoring Status
  • Secondary Air System Monitoring Status
  • A/C System Refrigerant Monitoring Status
  • Oxygen Sensor Monitoring Status
  • Oxygen Sensor Heater Monitoring Status
  • EGR System Monitoring Status
  • ECU Oxygen Sensor Test Results

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